eigen mdma - vooreigen gebruikt

ND

Newbie
ik weet niet of ik kan vragen, maar ik hkon er nets over trug vinden in de regels van het forum.
http://www.drugsforum.nl/viewtopic.php?t=57

weet iemand toevallig hoe je mdma maakt.
ik had vroeger tijdens mijn zoektocht erna iets van informatie erover.

ik weet dat je noot muskaat nodig heb en dat je er iets mee moet doen om die olie eruit te krijgen.

kan iemand mij ff het geheugen opfrissen?

een pbtje mag ook.

bedankt alvast.

p.s. ben nog al wetenschappelijk aangelegd en zou dit graag eens willen doen.
 

ND

Newbie
lol,waar staat dat ik naar grondstoffen vraag.

mijn intresse gaat uit naar het process.


bedankt voor je antwoord.


groet.


edit:13.47h
 

Solidius

Badass junkie
The following synthesis is not meant to be carried out by a novice chemist, although it is not terribly difficult. For descriptions of how to carry out the procedures, you should buy a standard lab procedures reference manual (or preferably you should take college organic chemistry).


Method 1

To a well stirred, cooled mixture of 34g of 30% H202 (hydrogen peroxide) in 150g 80% HCO2H (formic acid) there was added, dropwise, a solution of 32.4g isosafrole in 120ml acetone at a rate that kept the reaction mixture from exceeding 40 deg C. This required a bit over 1 hour, and external cooling was used as necessary. Stirring was continued for 16 hours, and care was taken that the slow exothermic reaction did not cause excess heating. An external bath with running water worked well. During this time the solution progressed from an orange color to a deep red. All volatile components were removed under vacuum which yielded some 60g of a very deep residue. This was dissolved in 60ml of MeOH (methyl alcohol -- methanol), treated with 360ml of 15% H2SO4 (sulfuric acid), and heated for 3 hours on the steam bath. After cooling the mixture was extracted with 3x75ml Et2O (diethyl ether) or C6H6 (benzene). Its recommended that, the pooled extracts can washed -- first with H2O and then with dilute NaOH (sodium hydroxide). Then the solvent is removed under vacuum to afford 20.6g 3,4-methylenedioxyphenylacetone (3,4-methylenedioxybenzyl methyl ketone). The final residue may be distilled at 2.0mm/108-112 deg C, or at about 160 deg C at the water pump.


Add 23g 3,4-methylenedioxyphenylacetone to 65g HCONH2 (formamide) and heat at 190 deg for five hours. Cool, add 100ml H20, extract with C6H6 (benzene) and evaporate in vacuum the extract. Add 8ml MeOH (methyl alcohol -- methanol) and 75ml 15% HCl to residue, heat on water bath two hours and extract in vacuum (or basify with KOH and extract the oil with benzene and dry, evaporate in vacuum) to get 11.7 g 3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDA).
To produce MDMA substitute N-methylformamide for formamide in the above synthesis.






Method 2

This is a less yealding method usually producing only MDA. It is a two step procedure first reacting safrole with hydrobromic acid to give 3,4-methylenedi- oxyphenyl-2-bromopropane, and then taking this material and reacting it with either ammonia or methylamine to yield MDA or MDMA respectively. This procedure has the advantages of not being at all sensitive to batch size, nor is it likely to "run away" and produce a tarry mess. It shares with the Ritter reaction the advantage of using cheap, simple, and easily available chemicals.



The sole disadvantage of this method is the need to do the final reaction with ammonia or methylamine inside a sealed pipe. This is because the reaction must be done in the temperature range of 120- 140 C, and the only way to reach this temperature is to seal the reactants up inside of a bomb. This is not particularly dangerous, and is quite safe if some simple precautions are taken.



The first stage of the conversion, the reaction with hydrobromic acid, is quite simple, and produces almost a 100% yield of the bromi- nated product. See the Journal of Biological Chemistry, Volume 108 page 619. The author is H.E. Carter. Also see Chemical Abstracts 1961, column 14350. The following reaction takes place:



To do the reaction, 200 ml of glacial acetic acid is poured into a champagne bottle nestled in ice. Once the acetic acid has cooled down, 300 grams (200 ml) of 48% hydrobromic acid is slowly added with swirling. Once this mixture has cooled down, 100 grarns of safrole is slowly added with swirling. Once the safrole is added, the cheap plastic stopper of the champagne bottle is wired back into place, and the mixture is slowly allowed to come to room temperature with occasional shaking. After about 12 hours the original two layers will merge into a clear red solution. In 24 hours, the reaction is done. The chemist carefully removes the stopper from the bottle, wearing eye protection. Some acid mist may escape from around the stopper.



The reaction mixture is now poured onto about 500 grams of crushed ice in a 1000 or 2000 ml beaker. Once the ice has melted, the red layer of product is separated, and the water is extracted with about l00 ml of petroleum ether or regular ethyl ether. The ether extract is added to the product, and the combined product is washed first with water, and then with a solution of sodium carbonate in water. The purpose of these washings is to remove HBr from the product. One can be sure that all the acid is removed from the product when some fresh carbonate solution does not fizz in contact with the product.



Once all the acid in the product is removed, the ether must be removed from it. This is important because if the ether were allowed to remain in it, too much pressure would be generated in the next stage inside of the bomb. Also, it would interfere with the formation of a solution between the product and methylamine or ammonia. It is not necessary to distill the product because with a yield of over 90%, the crude product is pure enough to feed into the next stage. To remove the ether from the product, the crude product is poured into a flask, and a vacuum is applied to it. This causes the ether to boil off. Some gentle heating with hot water is quite helpful to this process. The yield of crude product is in the neighborhood of 200 grams.



With the bromo compound in hand, it is time to move onto the next step which gives MDA or MDMA. The bromo compound reacts with ammonia or methylamine to give MDA or MDMA.




To do the reaction, 50 grams of the bromo compound is poured into a beaker, and 200 ml of concentrated ammonium hydroxide (28% NH3) or 40% methylamine is added. Next, isopropyl alcohol is added with stirring until a nice smooth solution is formed. It is not good to add too much alcohol because a more dilute solution reacts slower. Now the mixture is poured into a pipe "bomb." This pipe should be made of stainless steel, and have fine threads on both ends. Stainless steel is preferred because the HBr given off in the reaction will rust regular steel. Both ends of the pipe are securely tightened down. The bottom may even be welded into place. Then the pipe is placed into cooking oil heated to around 130 C. This temperature is maintained for about 3 hours or so, then it is allowed to cool. Once the pipe is merely warm, it is cooled down some more in ice, and the cap unscrewed.


The reaction mixture is poured into a distilling flask, the glass- ware rigged for simple distillation, and the isopropyl alcohol and excess ammonia or methylamine is distilled off. When this is done, the residue inside the flask is made acid with hydrochloric acid. If indicating pH paper is available, a pH of about 3 should be aimed for. This converts the MDA to the hydrochloride which is water soluble. Good strong shaking of the mixture ensures that this conversion is complete. The first stage of the purification is to recover unreacted bromo compound. To do this, 200 to 300 ml of ether is added. After some shaking, the ether layer is separated. It contains close to 20 grams of bromo compound which may be used again in later batches.

Now the acid solution containing the MDA is made strongly basic with lye solution. The mixture is shaken for a few minutes to ensure that the MDA is converted to the free base. Upon sitting for a few minutes, the MDA floats on top of the water as a dark colored oily layer. This layer is separated and placed into a distilling flask. Next, the water layer is extracted with some toluene to get out the remaining MDA free base. The toluene is combined with the free base layer, and the toluene is distilled off. Then a vacuum is applied, and the mixture is fractionally distilled. A good aspirator with cold water will bring the MDA off at a temperature of 150 to 160 C. The free base should be clear to pale yellow, and give a yield of about 20 ml. This free base is made into the crystalline hydrochloride by dissolving it in ether and bubbling dry HCl gas through it.
 

spliffsnatcher

Belezen gebruiker
@solidus

het niet te moeilijk maken he:wink:

Start: +- 800 euro aan degelijk labomateriaal, glaswerk enz...
meeste produkten zijn over de toonbank te krijgen.
Safrool of saffrassas is jammer genoeg niet zo makkelijk verkrijgbaar, toch niet in grote hoeveelheden. tip hiervoor is duitsland en zoek naar een produkt waarin genoeg safrool te vinden is 80 a 90 procent. met 2 dagenz oekwerk vind je dat wel (etherische olien zijn daar leuk voor)
zie dat je altijd genoeg ijs hebt, niks zo stom als je batch verliezen door het te laten falen in de helft.
Recepten die je vind schrijf je best zelf nog is uit, er zitten ALTIJD fouten in recepten, beetje beroepsgeheim bij chemisten. Zo onderscheid je de bekwame van de prullers.
Dat laatste zou normaal niet zo moeilijk mogen zijn, mdma synthese is net ietsje moeilijker dan middelbare school chemie.
Was je produkt liever 4 keer ipv 1 keer. Geeft veel mooiere resultaten.
Bouw je glaswerk eerst even op u bed dan heb je een overzicht hoe je ze best in de haken zet.
zorg dat je alles bij de hand hebt wanneer het snel moet gaan.
Neem je tijd --> beter om produkt per produkt te maken en daar tussen een dagje te wachten.
Zet een tv naast u want soms kan je wel ff zitten wachten naast een reactie. NOOIT u opstelling verlaten

And last but not least: als je niets van chemie kent koop u een goede handleiding organische chemie, je hebt er wel enkele. Maar ga zeker voor engelstalige universiteitsuitgaven. Ies van een eerste jaar unief zou perfect moeten zijn. Ik beweer niet dat je 700 paginas moet gaan leren, maar het is wel handig dat je weet wat een scheitrechter is en wat oxidatiegtallen zijn. Methyl groepen zouden zoiezo basis moeten zijn
 

Rain

Bewuste gebruiker
Moet nog ff een datum prikken in toekomst om de lovedrug te maken. Ik en een maat zijn het van plan :P
 
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Anonymous

Gast
Ik ben heel benieuwd hoe ver je komt, hou ons op de hoogte :P
 

wiet busje

Belezen gebruiker
Bij een groothandel voor Smartshops waar ik inkoop hebben ze ook sassafras in het assortiment. Ook grote hoeveelheden :wink: Ook ik ben van plan binnenkort MDMA te maken voor eigen gebruik en wat vrienden. Ik hou jullie op de hoogte :sunglasses:
 

Rain

Bewuste gebruiker
Ik denk dat wietbusje me duidelijk voor is, aangezien ik pas ga beginnen als ik op mezelf woon. ( enkele jaren )

Ik ga me er wel nu al in verdiepen.
 

spliffsnatcher

Belezen gebruiker
zie dat je het juiste deel van de plant verkrijgt om olie uit te trekken.
En dus niet de saffrassas uit azarius
per vergissing een isotoop maken kan wel is pijnlijke resultaten opleveren.
 

spliffsnatcher

Belezen gebruiker
noot muskaat al niet omdat daar zeeeer weinig safrool in zit, kamfer zou ook nog gaan, zeker de bruine versie, daar is ook 70 procent uit te halen
 
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