Geteste coke maar toch speedy?

[Nodoubts]

Goedemiddag allen,

Ik ben een lange tijd afwezig geweest hier, ben vorig jaar succesvol van de ghb afgekomen na dat een behoorlijk lange tijd 24/7 gebruikt te hebben. Lichamelijk verslaafd met alle nadelige effecten die je daarbij kunt bedenken.

Nu heb ik dat dus achter mij gelaten gelukkig, wel gebruik ik met enige regelmaat coke die getest is op 72% zonder verdere actieve stoffen. Ik gebruik coke altijd met alcohol, als ik deze coke gebruik heb krijg ik na een paar flinke lijnen toch een soort van speedy gevoel, redelijk knarse tanden, niet kunnen eten en ik moet dan altijd die nacht/ochtend doorgaan totdat alles op is.

Heb ook met andere geteste coke nooit dit speedy gevoel gehad, meer het relaxte “lekker chillen” gevoel.
Wellicht kennen mensen dit? Of weet iemand waaraan dit kan liggen?( De alcohol misschien)
Alvast bedankt.

 

[FerdFatoehaus]

Gemixt met alcohol wordt er een extra stofje aangemaakt, wat het effect van coke versterkt maar ook extra schadelijk is.

Cocaethylene - Wikipedia

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[Nodoubts]

Ja dat klopt daar was ik van op de hoogte,
Ik weet dat dat het gevoel versterkt maar dit voelt toch anders, alsof het een andere soort coke is of zo.

 

[FerdFatoehaus]

Misschien dat je hier nog wat aan hebt. Er wordt wel vaker gediscussieerd over Peruaanse VS Colombiaanse. Heb er zelf niet heel veel verstand van.

 

[Mezelf]

72% zonder verdere actieve stoffen

Dit betekend dat er toch 17% andere stoffen inzitten. Weet je welke dan toevallig? Sommige stoffen zijn bijvoorbeeld niet actief maar kunnen wel een wisselwerking met cocaine hebben.

 

[Nodoubts]

Wat ik begrepen had was het gemixed met mannitol, dacht zelf dat dat geen effect op de coke had maar ik kan het ook verkeerd hebben. Het is voor de rest goede coke en zou dus ook met het land van herkomst te maken kunnen hebben zoals @Ganggang💯 zei.

 

[AcidWarrior]

Wat ik begrepen had was het gemixed met mannitol, dacht zelf dat dat geen effect op de coke had maar ik kan het ook verkeerd hebben. Het is voor de rest goede coke en zou dus ook met het land van herkomst te maken kunnen hebben zoals @Ganggang💯 zei.

Coke uit Ecuador is naar mijn ervaring het meeste speedy v. alle herkomst landen.

 

[jetsetlife]

hey heb dat ook voor gehad dat komt meestal door bijproducten, zeide ze niet dat jouw sample bijproducten hadden? meestal zijn noemen ze dat "cocaine akaloiden" die de cocaine een amphetamine achtige effect geven. meestal met een aceton wash haal je er sommige uit en de sterke geur ook. komt gewoon door dat de cocaine niet juist of te snel afgewerkt is

 

[jetsetlife]

" I have personally come to believe that additional alkaloids, in addition to the cocaine itself, leftover from a rushed and unfinished final cleaning at the manufacturing point, tend to mimic those of speed when combined together. "

 

[Babbanem]

" I have personally come to believe that additional alkaloids, in addition to the cocaine itself, leftover from a rushed and unfinished final cleaning at the manufacturing point, tend to mimic those of speed when combined together. "

Cocamine

 

[jetsetlife]

Or...you can consider this.

If you are getting your coke anywhere close to the pressed brick level, it is likely not cut with anything but Lavamosol (sp). You can get that out but it involves base and hexanes.

Ignore that for a moment. The manufacturing process of jungle cocaine involves extraction from the leaves. Now those leaves, like most of the most interesting alkaloid producing plants have many related chemicals in them. Coca has about ten. Principle among them is cocamine. It can be a considerably percentage of the content of that leaf.

The jungle extraction process, if not timed and ph balanced just right (and it never is) will extract most of the other chemicals along with the cocaine. The grower, who reduces his leaves to "pasta" will never limit the extraction process to just that one gleaming numbing chemical because....weight. no one pays him on the basis of purity.

So he puts his pasta on his donkey and delivers his raw material to a clandestine lab.

Now the lab has problems. First, the dea has made actone in large quantities impossible to get. Hence, no final wash. But there is more to it than that. If you want pure cocaine from extractions, you must oxidise all of those other alkaloids from the pasta using potassium permanganate. If thos process is not timed just right, the potassium permanganate will destroy first the cocamine and then gp after the cocaine itself.

If you are interested in only weight, being that poor cocaine fetches the same price as the quality stuff, why bother refining it at all? And so they do not.

Cocamine has some properties that have an effect. Of you have eve smelled dirty gym socks, talc, dirt, dust in your bag of blow, what you are smelling is cocamine.

If you have ever snorted a line and felt yourself unfocused, yawning, sleepy, disoriented, extreme dry mouth, you are feeling the effects of the only other psychoactive chemical in the plant..cocamine.

So your acetone wash got rid of the waxes and oils but thats about it.

Few have actually had 80 to 100 percent pure and at 100 many do not like the teeth grinding jaw clenching effects but leave a little cocamine in there and you quickly discover why it is the champaign of drugs. The clarity and gentleness is highly attractive. Once one experiences such a thing they will turn down anything that is inferior.

If you have tried pure mdma, recall those first few minutes of your experience. Now keep it at that intensity and make it last maybe 40 minutes. That is what we are talking about.

 

[jetsetlife]

Cocamine

klopt!

 

[benzzzy]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocamide_DEA ?

 

[FerdFatoehaus]

Or...you can consider this.

If you are getting your coke anywhere close to the pressed brick level, it is likely not cut with anything but Lavamosol (sp). You can get that out but it involves base and hexanes.

Ignore that for a moment. The manufacturing process of jungle cocaine involves extraction from the leaves. Now those leaves, like most of the most interesting alkaloid producing plants have many related chemicals in them. Coca has about ten. Principle among them is cocamine. It can be a considerably percentage of the content of that leaf.

The jungle extraction process, if not timed and ph balanced just right (and it never is) will extract most of the other chemicals along with the cocaine. The grower, who reduces his leaves to "pasta" will never limit the extraction process to just that one gleaming numbing chemical because....weight. no one pays him on the basis of purity.

So he puts his pasta on his donkey and delivers his raw material to a clandestine lab.

Now the lab has problems. First, the dea has made actone in large quantities impossible to get. Hence, no final wash. But there is more to it than that. If you want pure cocaine from extractions, you must oxidise all of those other alkaloids from the pasta using potassium permanganate. If thos process is not timed just right, the potassium permanganate will destroy first the cocamine and then gp after the cocaine itself.

If you are interested in only weight, being that poor cocaine fetches the same price as the quality stuff, why bother refining it at all? And so they do not.

Cocamine has some properties that have an effect. Of you have eve smelled dirty gym socks, talc, dirt, dust in your bag of blow, what you are smelling is cocamine.

If you have ever snorted a line and felt yourself unfocused, yawning, sleepy, disoriented, extreme dry mouth, you are feeling the effects of the only other psychoactive chemical in the plant..cocamine.

So your acetone wash got rid of the waxes and oils but thats about it.

Few have actually had 80 to 100 percent pure and at 100 many do not like the teeth grinding jaw clenching effects but leave a little cocamine in there and you quickly discover why it is the champaign of drugs. The clarity and gentleness is highly attractive. Once one experiences such a thing they will turn down anything that is inferior.

If you have tried pure mdma, recall those first few minutes of your experience. Now keep it at that intensity and make it last maybe 40 minutes. That is what we are talking about.

Heb je hier ook een bron van? Ben erg benieuwd!

 

[jetsetlife]

Washed my coke in acetone

I seen you could wash coke in acetone on another forum so I decided to get everything to do it which just consisted of lab grade acetone and some medium filter paper a beaker and stir rod. So like $60 worth of shit with shipping. Just got done trying the cleaned up coke and its not so much...

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